HELP--cannot shrink the transaction log

Hello:
I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
that the file name is not in sysfiles.
This is what I have tried:
DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
Please help!
childofthe1980sYou specify the *logical name of the file*. See the sysfiles table. Also, see
http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
> I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
> analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
> What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
> log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
> syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
> that the file name is not in sysfiles.
> This is what I have tried:
> DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
> Please help!
> childofthe1980s|||I have done both of those things--no success...
PLEASE HELP!!!
childofthe1980s
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> You specify the *logical name of the file*. See the sysfiles table. Also, see
> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:268984E4-5D32-48E5-8438-7252EE44255A@.microsoft.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
> > analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
> >
> > What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
> > log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
> > syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
> > that the file name is not in sysfiles.
> >
> > This is what I have tried:
> >
> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
> >
> > Please help!
> >
> > childofthe1980s
>|||Can you post the commands you tried to execute?
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have done both of those things--no success...
> PLEASE HELP!!!
> childofthe1980s
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>> You specify the *logical name of the file*. See the sysfiles table. Also, see
>> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
>> --
>> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>>
>> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:268984E4-5D32-48E5-8438-7252EE44255A@.microsoft.com...
>> > Hello:
>> >
>> > I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
>> > analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
>> >
>> > What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
>> > log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
>> > syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
>> > that the file name is not in sysfiles.
>> >
>> > This is what I have tried:
>> >
>> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
>> >
>> > Please help!
>> >
>> > childofthe1980s
>>|||DBCC SHRINKFILE ('GPSJCLog.ldf', 2)
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> Can you post the commands you tried to execute?
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C2E7133B-E6A1-4B09-A351-C242160C2FA3@.microsoft.com...
> >I have done both of those things--no success...
> >
> > PLEASE HELP!!!
> >
> > childofthe1980s
> >
> > "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> >
> >> You specify the *logical name of the file*. See the sysfiles table. Also, see
> >> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> >> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> >> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:268984E4-5D32-48E5-8438-7252EE44255A@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello:
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
> >> > analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
> >> >
> >> > What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
> >> > log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
> >> > syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
> >> > that the file name is not in sysfiles.
> >> >
> >> > This is what I have tried:
> >> >
> >> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
> >> >
> >> > Please help!
> >> >
> >> > childofthe1980s
> >>
> >>
>|||Where you IN the database in question? I believe that is required.
Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:04:01 -0800, childofthe1980s
<childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hello:
>I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
>analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
>What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
>log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
>syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
>that the file name is not in sysfiles.
>This is what I have tried:
>DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
>Please help!
>childofthe1980s|||Nevermind. I figured it out.
I had to run the following scripts against each of the databases:
BACKUP LOG JC with TRUNCATE_ONLY
DBCC SHRINKFILE (2, 20)
You see, the support documentation on the web did not say that you have to
take the fileID of the database--2 in the syntax above-- in order to make it
work! You get the number 2 from running the following query against the
database:
select * from sysfiles
It would have been nice if this had been in the documentation!
Thanks!
childofthe1980s
"Roy Harvey" wrote:
> Where you IN the database in question? I believe that is required.
> Roy Harvey
> Beacon Falls, CT
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:04:01 -0800, childofthe1980s
> <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >Hello:
> >
> >I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in query
> >analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
> >
> >What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and the
> >log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
> >syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message saying
> >that the file name is not in sysfiles.
> >
> >This is what I have tried:
> >
> >DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
> >
> >Please help!
> >
> >childofthe1980s
>|||You needed to use the Logical name not the physical one. Drop the .ldf and
you should be golden.
--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> DBCC SHRINKFILE ('GPSJCLog.ldf', 2)
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>> Can you post the commands you tried to execute?
>> --
>> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>>
>> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:C2E7133B-E6A1-4B09-A351-C242160C2FA3@.microsoft.com...
>> >I have done both of those things--no success...
>> >
>> > PLEASE HELP!!!
>> >
>> > childofthe1980s
>> >
>> > "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You specify the *logical name of the file*. See the sysfiles table.
>> >> Also, see
>> >> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>> >> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>> >> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:268984E4-5D32-48E5-8438-7252EE44255A@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE
>> >> > in query
>> >> > analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC
>> >> > and the
>> >> > log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in
>> >> > the
>> >> > syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a
>> >> > message saying
>> >> > that the file name is not in sysfiles.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is what I have tried:
>> >> >
>> >> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
>> >> >
>> >> > Please help!
>> >> >
>> >> > childofthe1980s
>> >>
>> >>
>>|||Not true. You can use either the ID or the LOGICAL name not the physical
name. And hopefully the db is not in FULL recovery mode or you just lost the
log chain with that truncate.
--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F4F525D1-24BC-4482-A164-55B00F0336F6@.microsoft.com...
> Nevermind. I figured it out.
> I had to run the following scripts against each of the databases:
> BACKUP LOG JC with TRUNCATE_ONLY
> DBCC SHRINKFILE (2, 20)
> You see, the support documentation on the web did not say that you have to
> take the fileID of the database--2 in the syntax above-- in order to make
> it
> work! You get the number 2 from running the following query against the
> database:
> select * from sysfiles
> It would have been nice if this had been in the documentation!
> Thanks!
> childofthe1980s
>
>
> "Roy Harvey" wrote:
>> Where you IN the database in question? I believe that is required.
>> Roy Harvey
>> Beacon Falls, CT
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:04:01 -0800, childofthe1980s
>> <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >Hello:
>> >
>> >I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in
>> >query
>> >analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
>> >
>> >What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and
>> >the
>> >log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
>> >syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message
>> >saying
>> >that the file name is not in sysfiles.
>> >
>> >This is what I have tried:
>> >
>> >DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
>> >
>> >Please help!
>> >
>> >childofthe1980s|||No, Andrew, I tried using the logical file name without the ldf and it did
not work either. So, yes, the documentation needs updating.
"Andrew J. Kelly" wrote:
> Not true. You can use either the ID or the LOGICAL name not the physical
> name. And hopefully the db is not in FULL recovery mode or you just lost the
> log chain with that truncate.
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:F4F525D1-24BC-4482-A164-55B00F0336F6@.microsoft.com...
> > Nevermind. I figured it out.
> >
> > I had to run the following scripts against each of the databases:
> >
> > BACKUP LOG JC with TRUNCATE_ONLY
> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (2, 20)
> >
> > You see, the support documentation on the web did not say that you have to
> > take the fileID of the database--2 in the syntax above-- in order to make
> > it
> > work! You get the number 2 from running the following query against the
> > database:
> >
> > select * from sysfiles
> >
> > It would have been nice if this had been in the documentation!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > childofthe1980s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Roy Harvey" wrote:
> >
> >> Where you IN the database in question? I believe that is required.
> >>
> >> Roy Harvey
> >> Beacon Falls, CT
> >>
> >> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:04:01 -0800, childofthe1980s
> >> <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hello:
> >> >
> >> >I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in
> >> >query
> >> >analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
> >> >
> >> >What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and
> >> >the
> >> >log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
> >> >syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message
> >> >saying
> >> >that the file name is not in sysfiles.
> >> >
> >> >This is what I have tried:
> >> >
> >> >DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
> >> >
> >> >Please help!
> >> >
> >> >childofthe1980s
> >>
>
>|||> No, Andrew, I tried using the logical file name without the ldf and it did
> not work either. So, yes, the documentation needs updating.
The documentation clearly states that you can use *either* the logical filename or the file id. The
documentation is correct. The command you posted had 'GPSJCLog.ldf' for the logical filename, and I
guess that you by mistake put the *physical* filename there instead of the *logical* filename. If
you show ut the output from below, we can say for sure:
SELECT name, filename FROM sysfiles
I have shrunk database files occasionally and I always used the logical filename. In addition,
here's a script (executed on my SQL Server 2000) which clearly show the usage of the *logical*
filename:
USE master
CREATE DATABASE myTestShrink ON PRIMARY
(NAME = N'myTestShrink', FILENAME = N'C:\myTestShrink.mdf'
,SIZE = 1024KB , FILEGROWTH = 10%)
LOG ON
(NAME = N'myTestShrink_log', FILENAME = N'C:\myTestShrink_log.ldf'
, SIZE = 1024KB , FILEGROWTH = 10%)
GO
--Increase log file size
BACKUP DATABASE myTestShrink TO DISK = 'nul'
CREATE TABLE myTestShrink..test(c1 int identity, c2 char(2000))
INSERT INTO myTestShrink..test(c2)
SELECT TOP 10000 'hello' FROM sysobjects, syscolumns
GO
--Check log file size
SELECT name, size*8192/(1024*1024) AS SizeInMb FROM myTestShrink..sysfiles WHERE groupid = 0
--Empty the log
BACKUP LOG myTestShrink WITH NO_LOG
--Check the logical and physical files names
SELECT name, filename FROM myTestShrink..sysfiles
--Perform the shrink, ***based on logical filename***
USE myTestShrink
GO
DBCC SHRINKFILE('myTestShrink_log', 2)
--Check log file size
SELECT name, size*8192/(1024*1024) AS SizeInMb FROM myTestShrink..sysfiles WHERE groupid = 0
USE master
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:04A6393F-154E-4A1A-946B-0768F7B47F85@.microsoft.com...
> No, Andrew, I tried using the logical file name without the ldf and it did
> not work either. So, yes, the documentation needs updating.
> "Andrew J. Kelly" wrote:
>> Not true. You can use either the ID or the LOGICAL name not the physical
>> name. And hopefully the db is not in FULL recovery mode or you just lost the
>> log chain with that truncate.
>> --
>> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>> "childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F4F525D1-24BC-4482-A164-55B00F0336F6@.microsoft.com...
>> > Nevermind. I figured it out.
>> >
>> > I had to run the following scripts against each of the databases:
>> >
>> > BACKUP LOG JC with TRUNCATE_ONLY
>> > DBCC SHRINKFILE (2, 20)
>> >
>> > You see, the support documentation on the web did not say that you have to
>> > take the fileID of the database--2 in the syntax above-- in order to make
>> > it
>> > work! You get the number 2 from running the following query against the
>> > database:
>> >
>> > select * from sysfiles
>> >
>> > It would have been nice if this had been in the documentation!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > childofthe1980s
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Roy Harvey" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Where you IN the database in question? I believe that is required.
>> >>
>> >> Roy Harvey
>> >> Beacon Falls, CT
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:04:01 -0800, childofthe1980s
>> >> <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hello:
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm trying to shrink the transaction log by running DBCC SHRINKFILE in
>> >> >query
>> >> >analyzer in SQL 2000 against the master database.
>> >> >
>> >> >What is the EXACT syntax? You see, the name of the database is JC and
>> >> >the
>> >> >log file is named GPSJClog.ldf. I have tried to place both names in the
>> >> >syntax of the statement but with no success. I keep getting a message
>> >> >saying
>> >> >that the file name is not in sysfiles.
>> >> >
>> >> >This is what I have tried:
>> >> >
>> >> >DBCC SHRINKFILE (GPJClog.ldf , 2)
>> >> >
>> >> >Please help!
>> >> >
>> >> >childofthe1980s
>> >>
>>